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| Like most people commenting on this thread and on that video, you miss his point. He is asserting that lacking some inevitable punishment, people do that which is socially acceptable to get away with. He used a poor example of rape since he is in a country that teaches that rape is bad. However, in a country where it is socially acceptable to beat your wife, you would be able to get away with it(which shows a flaw in his own claim since people do in fact do bad things even believing in religious consequences). In a country where copying intellectual property is acceptable, people will do it. In a country where indirectly taking money from others is acceptable, people will do it. In a society where slavery is acceptable, people will own slaves. In a society where it is wrong for minors to have sex, people will disapprove of it. I can go on and on. Simply saying you wouldn't rape someone because it's you know it's wrong fails to consider that our society teaches you this(unless you 'know' it's wrong through some deduction like I mention in the next paragraph). His point isn't about rape, but about moral absolutism.Of course, he is still wrong but just not for the popular reasons in this thread, which looks to society for morality(and breaks because it falls into moral relativism). The solution is to provide the framework for a universal morally preferable behavior, some absolute set of morals grounded not in the whims of a society, but on more fundamental rules of nature and humanity. Mill's Harm Principle is a good example of such a solution, but it is hardly the only one. You could go with Kant's model(which I absolutely detest and see many contradictions with) or any of the extrapolations from Mill's concept of utility. Moral absolutism can in fact come from secular solutions, based on reasoning about epistemology, metaphysics, and ethics. So, whether we've completely solved the solution or not, that's the real answer he would not have been able to refute. |
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